" after my initial acute recent attack, i took all the herbs and went on vacation and felt much better, im still on the herbs and have had a few bad da ys here and there, but i think its more from the sitting at work all day, the herbs wont cure you, but they can just keep things feeling better and are way safer to take everyday than painkillers and stuff i think"

A few bad days here and there is still better than every day being bad. The herbs take a very long time to fully work, and if you stick with it you will get there in the end. That has been my experience and I think Bill who posts here as well. Everyday painkillers just tackle the symptoms of pain and thats it.