I have gone to web page. I am starting the temeric, fennnugreek and bromelian tomorrow. Did you order the $299 package and did that help. Efficacy rates of epididymectomy were for men who had vasectomy prior, not for genral poulation and excluded cases were other ailments later found. 1/10 for military really sucked. I discussed conditon w/Pathologist. Dr strongly believes that infection in EP not treated by antibiotics due to poor circulation (I had vasectomy) along with high PH which stop antibiotics from working properly. Both times I took CIPRO swelling went down immediately in the vas deference, first time EP was not swollen, and second time EP swollen and never went down. Snce Vas Deffeence swelled long before EP (even hav this on ultrasound. seems as though possible leak in vas deffernce let infection into EP but can not get out. EP size of acorn now. Anybody else that size worried about testicle dying as I have raed about. HPV DNA found in 31% of Chronic EP not due to TB. Now I need to find out what HPV is. Seeing UR from UCDAvis next month. Not much resaech in this area by anyone but I am sure you already know this