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Posted by: � 09/05/2006, 05:46:28 Author Profile Mail author Edit |
Alan, it's going to be okay! I got you covered!
By all means follow your doctor's advice, but if you find you're not getting better, or not getting wholly better, or if you get better and the monster comes back, I have got some ideas. I'm no doctor, but you describe the CLASSIC symptoms of an inguinal hernia that irritates the genito-femoral nerve. Sometimes very small hernias are the ones that do that, and are the most difficult to detect. When that happens, the irritated nerve causes "referred pain." In other words, there may be nothing wrong with your balls -- the origin of the pain is elsewhere. Hernias can also cause scrotal swelling -- not from infection, but because of a bit of intestines poking where they don't belong. The possibility that you have an inguinal hernia is suggested by: - onset after lifting heavy objects; - the pain pattern of no pain most mornings, and worse from activity, especially from sitting; - perceiving the pain in the scrotum, which is the most common place for inguinal hernia pain to be felt (other places are possible too). The inguinal hernia, if you have one, is a little hole in your abdominal sack -- a sort of bag that holds your guts in. The result is a little bit of your intestines poke out around the rings where your balls descend. My anatomy may not be perfect, but the reason you may feel better in the morning is while you lie down and sleep, your intestines pull back and no longer irritates your nerve and by morning it's recovered. A FEW CAUTIONS 1. I have yet to find a urologist that knows anything about this - they'll feed you pounds of antibiotics for years instead. Too many hernia surgeons know nothing about this. And yet it is perfectly mainstream (see below). 2. If a hernia cannot be felt by the doctor, one possibility is to seek a "dynamic ultrasound" which can often find what the fingers cannot. The "dynamic" part means moving around as a tech instructs while they're scanning (a safe, quick, and cheap procedure). DO NOT let anyone talk you into a CT scan, which is USELESS for detection of hernias of this type. 3. Even less known is the possiblity with in inguinal hernia the invasion of the intestine can leak intestinal bacteria, so it's not impossible that you have an infection AND a hernia. If you think about it, that gets real confusing: the hernia causes infections, and even when the infections are cured you may feel better but still hurts because the referred pain of the hernia affects the same area. (I've never seen this "hernia causes infection" idea confirmed in any article, but it makes sense, and others have reported here been diagnosed with a hernia that caused recurrent epididymitis. I definitely had an infection, and I almost certainly have a infection I expect to get repaired soon. Hernias are easily fixed, but the fix takes surgery -- they never repair themselves. The key thing is to find a hernia surgeon -- someone who does hernia repairs and little or nothing else. You can get some leads on that by looking here. http://members3.boardhost.com/NorthPennHernia/index.html Lots of things can cause pain "down there" and for all I know your problem is only infection or isn't infection or heria. Those chances seem remote, and I wouldn't worry about them now. If you're getting better fast, which I doubt, you can always revisit the list of possibilities. Below are... 1. Some links to "differentials" (lists of possibilities of pelvic pain) 2. Some links and quotes about the idea that pain that is low in the morning and that gets worse from sitting (etc) can be the sign of an inguinal hernia. If you think the quotes and things apply to you, you might want to show them to a receptive or open minded doctor. Inguinal hernias don't often kill anyone, but they can cause miserable chronic pain. And if the hernia gets bigger, the intestines can get stuck (no longer pull in or out) which is a very serious emergency room condition. best luck, Spy ===================== http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/2000/01_00/lacroix.htm http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/1998/04apr/ruane.htm http://www.injuryupdate.com.au/ISMJGroinPain.htm =========================== http://www.pelvicpain.com/diagnosis.html www.leistenbruch.de/PatientLeaflet.pdf http://www.physsportsmed.com/issues/2000/01_00/lacroix.htm BJU International (March 2003), 91.5 http://hernia.tripod.com/types.html Inguinal hernia in urological patients: the value of herniography. |
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